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[doyle]

I don't want to stir up the kerfuffle, but in the interests of full disclosure and for anyone who wants to read it, here's the infamous Hole in the World commentary remark, now properly transcribed and in context.


JW: The boys were very comfortable about holding hands. There was no talk about how that was weird.
(Amy giggles and continues to do so throughout the dialogue)
AA: We were wondering, in the later episode when James tells me when we see Drogyn again, um, when he's like "well, there was that one time" when he's talking about being gay (laughs) with Angel, he was wondering if it was this moment, since you wrote both lines or if it was referencing another point in time?
JW: Y'know, um, I just wanna say, Angel and Spike; they were hanging out for years and years and years, they were in... y'know, all kinds of deviant, they were vampires, are we thinking they never? Come on, people, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, y'know, they're open-minded guys! They may be evil but they're not bigoted or close-minded. The hand-holding was a deliberate kind of over the top "look how together they are" and, yes, inevitably it causes some people to think... but it was mostly about the wire gag. But also...
AD: Which came as a great surprise to me. Great device. [end of scene, long silence before they start talking about Knox. They didn't know what the hell to do with him, which doesn't come as a great surprise to me, embittered Woodward fan that I am]

And an added bonus for the Spangel shippers. The cavemen vs. astronauts scene, as Angel yells "it's not about what I want"; Joss says that he thinks DB has never been funnier than when delivering that line, and:
JW: I have never seen a more intense or beautiful romance.
AD: They are hilarious.
JW: We finally found, y'know, the right girl for Angel... I'm sort of kidding.


Personally? I think all of this can be interpreted several ways and can be taken as Joss joking, Joss being mostly serious, whatever people want.

Comments

Still Spangel

[kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com]

Joss' shoutouts will always be about my Spangel love:) It's okay, he's Joss.

[firstgold.livejournal.com]

ROTF! That is hilarious, and further cements my appreciation for Joss. Thanks for transcribing that!

[slackerace.livejournal.com]

I must be the only person on the face of the planet who hasn't received her ATS S5 DVDs. Damn Amazon. I used a coupon and Share The Love, so they cost me like $15, which is why I am sure that my order will go out last. They will ship to those who paid more first. Grrr. /end rant

I think that Spangel is very much canon. Spike, Dru, Darla, and Angel were all together for 10 years. I'm sure that some serious "deviant" sexual behavior took place there. Now, to the extent in which it is written about in fanfic? No. But, fanfic takes things to the extreme, so I can buy it.

[wesleysgirl.livejournal.com]

If it makes you feel any better, Amazon finally claims to have mailed mine yesterday, so I still don't have mine either, and all I did was take advantage of the free shipping. But I've had this happen with them before, so I was pretty much expecting it, and I decided that saving $20 was worth it to me.

[angelbuffy0.livejournal.com]

Mine mailed yesterday too. I found out if ya accept share the love that they do not ship your order until after the original STL order has been processed and shipped. But hey a 10% discount for a few days extra wait can be worth it.

Hope mine will be here soon too.

[lynnenne]

Thanks for transcribing that! :)

[swmbo.livejournal.com]

Hee! Thank you for that! And eek, I am incredibly happy that AA is doing commentary as well, I crush so hard on actor commentary.

[neverneverfic.livejournal.com]

me too!

nevernever + actor commentary = OTP4EVA

[essene.livejournal.com]

Oh man! I do love that Joss Whedon fellow!

*taps fingers impatiently for tax refund so can buy*

[gwynnega]

JW: I have never seen a more intense or beautiful romance.

Hee! Must watch that commentary today...

[julia-here.livejournal.com]

I have a $50 Amazon certificate from Christmas, and I'm making a dusty little rut in my brain going back and forth: Wonderfalls! no, Angel Season 5! but... Wonderfalls! only Angel Season 5! WANT Wonderfalls! Only, love and desire Angel Season 5! BUT: UNAIRED EPISODES of Wonderfalls! but, but, but...Spike


Life is hard, I tell you.


Julia, not being independently wealthy sucks

[bandgeek.livejournal.com]

Um ... so why is this a kerfluffle? Are people just being homophobic?

[sdragon.livejournal.com]

Joss Whedon is so awesome. And I finally got to see Season 5 for the first time (over about three days) when I got my DVDs (I was overseas while it aired). So wonderful. And so juicy. :D

(pointed here by dreamburnt)