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I have snacks, I have Sudoku, I have no plans for today except listening to the audio of The Dalek Master Plan. Ahh, Saturdays. (I would be joining in [livejournal.com profile] taraljc's Life on Mars-a-thon, as I still haven't watched it, but I'm at my parents' and my dad's PC is creaky and weeps emo computer tears if I try to make it do complicated things like play .avi's)

And a meme, seen everywhere but most recently from [livejournal.com profile] twinkledru: Name a character or pairing! Then I will ramble on about it! I just like how emphatic it is.

on 2006-03-04 03:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com
Five/Turlough!

on 2006-03-04 10:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Oh God, I need to start with Mawdryn Undead (which needs to be released on DVD *now*): the bit when Five introduces Turlough to Tegan and Nyssa is so "this is my new best friend!" (as one of my housemates pointed out, he's probably thinking 'finally, another male in this TARDIS of estrogen! *latch*') He's just so happy to meet him, and there's a bit where he's babbling about how some piece of technology works and he breathlessly finishes "I made it myself!" and Turlough properly smiles - for possibly the only time in the whole series, that I can think of - and sort of laughs as he says "I'm sure you did". He looks so charmed, forgetting for a moment that he's meant to murder this guy. It's such a nice little instant connection between them.

Then of course, the parallel that I couldn't believe I'd missed when it was pointed out to me, Turlough picking up a rock to murder someone in order to gain his freedom, just as the First Doctor does in the very first story. Very interesting, that. I love that they go from attempted assassination to that doleful "look after him"/"I shall miss you" in Planet of Fire, and that Turlough clearly ends up caring about the Doctor despite his best efforts to be a self-serving bastard. The fact that they're both stubborn and sarcastic (more facetious, in the Doctor's case) works well for me, too - I love reading and writing dialogue between prickly people.

By the way, you were mentioning PDAs on your journal - I loved Imperial Moon, which has Five and Turlough gatecrashing a Victorian moon landing. All very Jules Verne, and while I agree with the OG reviewers who reckon it was written as an EDA and "Fitz" replaced with "Turlough" at the last minute, it's got a really nice Five/Turlough friendship going.

on 2006-03-04 10:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com
Oh, the bit where the Doctor introduces him makes me flail! He sounds so happy. And the only bits where Turlough smiles are when he's with the Doctor, doing boy things and having subtext. Such a pity they didn't have more onscreen time together, doing standard Doctor-and-companion adventurous stuff.

Didn't know about the rock parallel: that's awesome. There are boatloads of points of connection between then.

Sorry, this was meant to be you rambling on...;)

Cheers for the tip on Imperial Moon. Am more than happy for him to be written as a sort of Fitz stand-in if that leads to Five/Turlough goodness, hee.

on 2006-03-04 11:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Oh, feel free to ramble on!

Such a pity they didn't have more onscreen time together, doing standard Doctor-and-companion adventurous stuff.

Absolutely. I'm sad there are so few audios/novels with the two of them (though I suppose there are a few - it'd be far worse if I was a Five/Adric fan)

on 2006-03-04 11:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com
They work really nicely together, I think (in between murderous intent and being driven insane and trying to run away like a great big coward, obviously). Five really liked having Nyssa around because she knew stuff and although he loves being smug and knowledgeable, there comes a point where it gets a bit frustrating being surrounded by ninnies. And Turlough had that same thing of knowing a bit about technology, and not needing every little thing spelt out to the point of absurdity. There are trust issues obviously, but Five talks to Turlough on a level he never does with any of the others: sort of mutual respect despite the context.

Still haven't heard the audios yet, though will crack imminently I think. I'm trying to spread out the bits that are left I haven't heard/read yet now I've wolfed down all the eps in a big chunk: slightly pathetic, but I hate the thought that one day soon there will be No More New (to me) Things. (Daft really, as a)this is tv from 1984 and I should be whooping that there ARE new things and b)fic, doh.)

I have no sympathy for the Five/Adric fans as they are on crack. Ahem. :D



on 2006-03-05 12:11 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Five/Nyssa's my het Five-OTP, and one which there is zero fic for. Woe. Shall have to write some.

slightly pathetic, but I hate the thought that one day soon there will be No More New (to me) Things

*clings* I know! I've seen all Five's stuff and am trying to pace myself a bit on the books and audios because there'll be none left, and with no new PDAs in the foreseeable future... woes.

I have no sympathy for the Five/Adric fans as they are on crack. Ahem. :D

Hee. I love some crack pairings myself, but I'll admit I really don't get Five/Adric. I think my main problem is Adric's apparent age: I know Mark Strickson and Matthew Waterhouse are the same age but Adric *looks* (and acts) about 13, while Turlough looks anything from 17 to 30-something depending on the shot.

on 2006-03-05 12:30 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com
Holy crap, had no idea they were the same age. That's so odd. I know they're very different characters, and Adric is very much the 'annoying little brother' as opposed to Turlough being the World's Oldest Schoolboy, but...yeah, odd. But I think Adric is my real problem with Five/Adric. You're not good enough for him, pyjama boy!

I have this little dream world where the success of the new series means a revival of the PDAs and then they phone me up and ask me to write one and let me make it all Five/Turloughy through the means of clever subtext.

It is weird there is no Five/Nyssa. I buy that a hell of a lot more than Five/Tegan, who hog all the attention.

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