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doyle ([personal profile] doyle) wrote2005-05-21 08:29 pm

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After liking Father's Day less than everyone else seemed to, I loved this week's episode. Although, argh, there are little children playing outside our house going "Mummy? Are you my mummy?" and that's going to be scary as hell once it gets dark.

Loved the title. Nice allusion to An Empty Child.

I knew Richard Wilson was going to be playing a doctor, but when Nancy said "you need to talk to the doctor"... for a second, just a second, I thought they'd have a Sylvester McCoy cameo (Nancy struck me as a bit Ace-like, I can see Seven helping her out). Which would have been the Best Thing in the Whole of Ever Ever Ever. I loved the look on the Doctor's face; he did seem to be searching his memory, wondering if he'd been through this before and maybe noticed a strange Northerner in a leather jacket mooching around the place.

The Empty Child itself was very creepy. I called it being Nancy's brother when the Doctor opened the door and found him gone - made sense that he was following her, and she was already gone. And the Doctor feeling sorry for it, trying to let it in after Nancy warned him - very like Rose and the Dalek, I thought.

If Nancy doesn't die, I can see her being a companion next year, when Rose leaves. I wondered if she has some kind of power; she mentioned being able to avoid people following her. My choice, of course, would be Harriet Jones MP Flydale North, but RTD doesn't love me enough.

I may be alone in this, but I really like Jack in all his flash arrogant Han Solo/Ace Rimmer-ness. Very nice how they worked in his bisexuality from his first scene, as well, and it not being a big deal. (He was so shagging the army-guy whose arse he admired. He was.) Loved him and Rose dancing to Glenn Miller, on top of an invisible spaceship, in front of Big Ben, in the middle of an air raid. (I can just imagine Rose describing this to the Doctor. "It was so romantic! You've never done anything like that." "I took you for chips!")

Rose flying away on a blimp was too ludicrous and possibly more unintentionally funny than not, but it made me laugh for about ten minutes, so it's all good.

Are they just back from the 80s? (Well, yes, but aside from Father's Day) Rose's t-shirt is dodgy.

"Finally, a professional." SNERK. And Rose introducing the Doctor as "Mr. Spock". First time we've heard him call himself John Smith this series, right?

Ah, confirmation of what I've been wondering about the Doctor's age - namely, that Seven was about 950, so how can Nine be 900 - '900 years in a telephone box'. So it's 900 years since he and Susan came to Earth, and who knows how old he was then.

"Before the war, I was a father and a grandfather. Now I'm not either. But I'm still a doctor."
"Know the feeling."
Second reference to his family in as many weeks, isn't it? I wondered if he was being metaphorical or if that's confirmation that Susan somehow died in the Time War as well.


I probably have more thoughts, but I need to sleep and revise condensed matter (exam on Tuesday for which I know nothing) and mebbe write up the silly action piece I'm doing for the Buffy/Giles ficathon. I miss fic-writing.

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
With you on everything except the kids outside...

But I really didn't like Jack and Rose's flirting...made me cringe. But then, I am strange and unromantic...and its not that I didn't like the Glenn Miller spaceship and air raid thing, I just didn't see why they were flirting...did enjoy Jack though.

Invisble spaceship was cool too.

*musn'treadsandmanmustn'treadsandmangasmasksbadeeeeeeeekkkkk*

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I just didn't see why they were flirting...

Because they're both hot and Rose hasn't had a shag apart from Adam in months?

[identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com 2005-05-22 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Also, he was playing her. Not that I don't think he finds her attractive. But he has an agenda, and was laying it on a bit think.

[identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com 2005-05-24 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Jack and Rose... it's a Titanic thing.

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah yeah...just, eh, didn't do anything for me. Sides, I don't actually find Billie Piper all that hot. And certainly not in that shirt. Dear God what were they thinking?

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear God what were they thinking?

That the top goes perfectly with the accent?

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
*tries to come up with some defense of her Fictional Milly Girlfriend*

*fails*

It is a horrendous top. Some shops round here had them a few years back. Made me wonder at the time if that was some sort of cruel way of helping natural selection along, since wearing a Union Jack t-shirt in Northern Ireland comes under the heading 'suicide'.

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Did I ever tell you about the time I was visiting a friend in the university town of Syracuse, NY? Their college mascot is a dancing orange and the Syracuse students are thus known as the Orangemen. There's a university shop where you can buy lots of bright orange jumpers with slogans on such as "Real Men Wear Orange." Tender-hearted wee soul that I am, I'm awfully worried that one day some of those students are going to go on holiday to Northern Ireland...

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! They should. They would be warmly received...

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure I've told you about the firestarters we had one summer in work...

Went round setting fire to all the England shirts they saw in the shops. Those things don't burn. They melt. Messily.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Sort of like when they sell t-shirts that say 'England' up here, but with more death?

[identity profile] nymphgalatea.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You Scottish then?

People who wear England shirts in Glasgow don't even get graves.

I suppose Billy had to wear that shirt so she could make funny comments about it whilst hanging in midair.

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Never thought of that...
But yeah, most millie thing she could have worn ever...

Still inexcusable, although I liked the fact the Doctor doesn't like it either :)

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, what does millie mean? Is it what we call knacker and the English call Essex girl?

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Only with that abilty to scream through their sinuses that only people from Belfast have.

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You'll have to show me the scream weekend after next so.

I was very amused when the English media started talking about how this new breed of girl had suddenly evolved called the Essex girl, because we'd had them for years and always called them knackers. Or stellas in Cork. Shiny nasty sportswear, check, hair pulled back so tight it hurts the eyes, check, fuckload of gold jewellery they bought for 50c/lb, check, fake tan, check, tendency to travel in violent female slutty packs, check.

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't...I was brought up to speak properly!

You'll hear them...there's lots on our road.

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
But you're missing out on one of the great joys of life: imitating and mocking your social inferiors!

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can do the accent, I can't do the right volume. It must take years of training or something...

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The creepy possibly-drunk-or-a-junkie guy that hangs around the Spar? Curly red hair, looks like the dad from Shameless? Felt me up and kissed the back of my neck while I was paying for stuff at the Spar counter. I will never feel clean again, ugh.

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Whaaaat? Please tell me you screamed and accidentaly-on-purpose kicked the shit out of him? Or set Connorbeast on him? Or the police?

EEEEEeeeeeeeeeWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwww.....

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to become quietly invisible and one of the Spar boys very quickly ran out from the back and chucked him out... I bet boys don't have this problem. Not many of them, anyway...

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But they are vulnerable to the Rosin's of this world
Wouldn't you hate to have that coming at you some night out ?
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[personal profile] owl 2005-05-23 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds like millies. Tell, me is a 'chav' what we call a millie over here?

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-23 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I can tell, yeah, chav is the English for knacker. It seems to mean the same thing as Essex girl... maybe they wanted a word that wasn't so regional?

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Her head is beautiful and perfectly in proportion. It's just... err... closer to the camera than the rest of her body.

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The camera adds ten cranial pounds?

[identity profile] thecount-ha.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And it was in the 40's; evolution decrees that her brain is obviously more evolved than everybody else's brain from that time, and so her head must be larger in comparison to accommodate such a tremendous capacity for thought.


Yes.


That's it.

*weeeble*

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That was TERRIFYING. I couldn't watch the last few minutes. I covered my eyes with a cushion and peeked out from the corner. My heartrate's going mental and I'm alone in the apartment and Nancy was under the TABLE and it bent DOWN and I didn't see how she got to the door but then she couldn't get out and the Doctor and Rose and Jack are barricaded and there's lots of them filing after them and waaaaaah.

I couldn't make out most of the non-bum-related words in the Jack/other guy conversation, even after rewinding. What did they say to each other?

I think I'm going to turn all the lights on now and make a soothing cup of tea. And possibly put the TV in the freezer.

By the way, did you catch Dylan Moran's comedy gig last night on Channel 4? Fucking brilliant. And spawned my newest favourite compliment, when my flatmate turned to me and said, "You know, I could see you ending up with someone like that."

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn, I missed Dylan Moran! *weeps*

Jack and the guy, paraphrasing:
Guy: Coming down to the shelter? *something establishing Jack's in the RAF, can't remember what*
*Jack admires Rose's arse through his binoculars*
Jack: Great bottom.
Guy: Steady on, there's a time and a place!
Jack: I meant a girl, but you've got a great bottom too. *slaps him on the ass, leaves*

So, in conclusion, I only remember the bum bits too.

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, you caught more bum bits that I did; I just heard the last line.

Dylan Moran, I'm afraid to say, was blindingly brilliant. The encore when he demonstrated Irish Hair had myself and the flatmate in stitches for a good five minutes. The kind where just when you think you've caught your breath at last, the Hair flashes back into your brain and you collapse again. Oh, my trachea.

Plus, I now desperately need to learn how to make icons so I can do something with "My limos, my bitches, my limos powered with bitch juice". It would be a Faith/Lilah icon.

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
'Irish Hair'? Do tell? Purr-lease?

If Billie is Doyle's fictional girlfriend can Dylan Moran be my fictional boyfriend?

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It can't be told; it can only be demonstrated. Basically is scraggly shoulder-length hair with a really severe parting waaay over on one side practically over an ear. It's how you recognise the Irish abroad and it's So Fucking True.

If Billie is Doyle's fictional girlfriend can Dylan Moran be my fictional boyfriend?

Is fictional the right word there? I think my flatmate nicked him for me but if you smoke he probably belongs to your lot by rights.

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
*wurgle*

Right, so if I demonstrate the 'Millie scream' you'll demonstrate the 'Irish Hair'? Deal?

And I don't smoke but I want him anyway... wah.

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I just tried at the mirror, but my hair's too thick! Changing the parting doesn't really make much odds. And it only works if you're a man anyway, I think.

Re: *weeeble*

[identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, well, you can always demonstrate on the_count_ha :)

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)

I loved the look on the Doctor's face; he did seem to be searching his memory, wondering if he'd been through this before and maybe noticed a strange Northerner in a leather jacket mooching around the place.

Omg, he totally did, dammit. And then when he met Victor Meldrew he's like "...are you the Doctor?" in this sort of "shit, are you Ten or something?" way.

"It was so romantic! You've never done anything like that." "I took you for chips!"

"And I showed you your planet blowing up! AND I took you to watch your dad die!"

[identity profile] nymphgalatea.livejournal.com 2005-05-21 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I was babysitting a six year old whilst watching it. He is now sleeping at on the sofa next to me as I type, having refused to sleep alone, even with the lights on. Richard Wilsons' gas-mask transformation was just a wee bit too scary for him. That was some amazing CGI work they had going on there.

I think I should either send a complaint to the BBC or smack myself for letting him watch. Oops. I've traumatised him for life, yay.

And Captain Jack was so totally Ace Rimmer. Let's petition RTD to make him say "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast"

[identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com 2005-05-22 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
And Captain Jack was so totally Ace Rimmer.

And Flashheart from "Blackadder Goes Forth."

I desperately want the Doctor to refer to him as "Biggles" all of next week.