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There's been discussion on [livejournal.com profile] bookworm_jen's journal about canon and unconventional relationships. She proposed 4 rankings of relationships:

1) Canon: We saw an actual relationship on screen or there was a clear reference to a past relationship.

2) Near-Canon: We saw flirting or a one time fling on screen, or there was the implication of a past relationship. I would put relationships that are only refered to in commentary or interviews into this category.

3) Non-Canon: There was no relationship on screen, but there was a significant amount of sub-text or build-up and the writers could easily have worked it into the series without distorting the characters too badly.

4) Unconventional: There was no relationship, and it's highly unlikely that the writers could or would have worked it into the series without drastically changing who the characters are.


I'm interested in how subjective these are, or how much we agree on what counts as canon or almost-canon, so I present a poll. I randomly picked 15 m/f, m/m and f/f pairings, some of which happened on the show, some of which didn't. To play, pick which of the categories above you think each one falls into.


[Poll #480215]


[Poll #480216]


[Poll #480217]

on 2005-04-23 04:06 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nothingbutfic.livejournal.com
Yeah, I too have a problem with the categorisations, because how do we use one sided ness? We know, for example, that Xander carried a torch for Buffy (and may have had a thing for Joyce) canonically, so does that torch make it a '1'? (For it was a canonical feeling, but as it takes two to make a ship, do we bump it down to a 3?)

And argh, no Angel/Connor?

Also, the thing about Connor/Cordy is for my money, we never know exactly when the possession happened. You could make the argument it happened after she got turned into a demon and the self in the mirror in Tomorrow is really Jasmine, too; that Cordy has a split personality from half way through S3, in which case Angel/Cordy also is problematic. For me, I see Cordy as only really being taken over well and good probably around the time the sun goes out; previously Jasmine-as-subconscious steered her into things, but they weren't anything she wouldn't have done normally.

on 2005-04-23 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] speakr2customrs.livejournal.com
Possessed!Cordy killed Manny to get one of the tokens the Beast needed to put the sun out, and that's not something you can easily explain as subconscious steering. As far as I'm concerned Cordy is not there at all from the end of "The House Always Wins" (except when High School Cordelia is running the body in "Spin the Bottle") and "You're Welcome".

on 2005-04-24 01:56 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com
Agree with you! S3 Cordy was realCordy, and teenage Cordy was too true to character to had been possesed at the time.

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