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[doyle]

Three thoughts on Troy:

1) That was a bit shit, really.

2) Did the fucking fuckers fucking retcon Patroclus? "Cousin"?! Rather than "he whom I valued more than all others, and loved as dearly as my own life"? Blech.

3) I really want to read an Achilles/Patroclus Verona Beach AU.

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[lafemmedarla]

Maybe they think we're rready for incest Achilles/Patroclus. Or that's how they called it those days...

It's been a while since I've had a cousin.

[silly-dan.livejournal.com]

1) That was a bit shit, really.

Yes, it was. They changed pretty much every part of the original myth, leaving only the Trojan Horse. And that just ended up looking ridiculous.

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

We were actually surprised when the horse turned up - so much had been changed that we just assumed it'd be left out.

[vylit.livejournal.com]

It was very wrong, and I kept pointing out things that were totally cracktastic and driving Rob crazy. However, I did fall in love with Eric Bana's take on Hector. I can't help it!

*is a weak, weak woman*

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

However, I did fall in love with Eric Bana's take on Hector.

He was great, wasn't he? And attractive, let's not forget attractive. ;)

[shetiger.livejournal.com]

"Cousin"?!

This is why I refused to see this movie. I mean, come on.

Perhaps I'll see it on video someday. When I'm really bored.

[gloss]

an Achilles/Patroclus Verona Beach AU
Wriiiiiiiiiiiite it!

[mlyn.livejournal.com]

Retcon?

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

Sorry, my comics geekery is showing - retroactive continuity, when canon's rewritten. Smallville retconned Lois and Clark's relationship so they knew each other in high school, for example.

[mlyn.livejournal.com]

Aha. Neat!

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

::snort:: It sucked, no doubt.

Except for the fact that there were acres & acres of half-naked and nearly-naked manflesh. Mmmm.

And that scene with Achilles and the knife? ::dies::

By the way - go here (http://www.livejournal.com/allpics.bml?user=supersloane) and look at the second icon down on the left. You'll sporfle. ;)

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

Hee! I love that icon.

And yes, the half-naked men did somewhat save the movie for me, especially the rather lovely Mr. Pitt, but I ended up fastforwarding the last 45 minutes to avoid anything that didn't have Achilles or Hector. I'd worry that I missed some crucial plot, but meh.

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

I ended up fastforwarding the last 45 minutes to avoid anything that didn't have Achilles or Hector. I'd worry that I missed some crucial plot, but meh

I had no such luck - we saw it in the theater. Although, if you fast-forwarded through Peter O'Toole's scene w/Achilles, make sure you rewind and watch it. That man is amazing.

Plot? ::snickers:: It just infuriated me (and every other history buff in the audience - Briseis kills Agamemnon?!? Have they the BRAINWORMS?)

But the scene where Briseis has the knife to Achilles' throat, and he slides his hand up under her chiton....uhhhhh. I should probably worry about this thing I have with weapons. ::laugh::

[dualbunny.livejournal.com]

If you pretend the movie *is* an AU, it's easier. I can't lie though. The pretty pretty men were really why I went to see it. Plus dead Achilles was pretty.

[kattahj.livejournal.com]

Thanks to Troy, "cousin" became the funniest word of 2004. Even to me, and I haven't seen the film.

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

*g* The line "he was his cousin" got the biggest laugh of the movie in our house.

Things I'm surprised Hollywood got right

[h0pal0ng.livejournal.com]

1) Achilles Heel - I was so sure that they were going to fuck things up and have a happy ending, but they didn't. Hooray!

2) Peter O' Toole's Priam - Not sure how close to the myth, but a superb characterisation from a great actor.

3) Eric Bana's Hector - Again brilliant character. If he had somehow survived, I shamefully wouldn't have cared about the myth and just cheered.

4) Brian Cox's King - (shamefully I can't remember the name) - Again a villian you love to hate.

[kraken-wakes.livejournal.com]

Troy. I was so disappointed. Eric Bana - amazing. Peter O'Toole - superb. Sean Bean - really not enough of him and what the fuck was up with the ending. Not even a suggestion that it might take him a little while to get home.

Brad Pitt? Clearly they'd subsituted a cardboard cut out for him. The Trojan Horse was less wooden.

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

Sean Bean - really not enough of him

And I'd have traded a shot of Sean Bean's naked hipbone for all the naked scenes of Brad Pitt. ::pout::

[kraken-wakes.livejournal.com]

Oh my yes.

[flyingtapes.livejournal.com]

Did the fucking fuckers fucking retcon Patroclus?

Yep. Though when this prem'ed in America, we mocked the hell out of that. I saw it twice in theaters for various reasons, and it was so. damn. long. that I went and saw the tail-ends of two other movies (A Cinderella Story and Mean Girls) and still got back in time for all the nekkid hotness and fighting.

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad we not only rented it but rented it with free vouchers, so no money was actually spent. The nekkidness was very very nice but I was still beyond pissed off on Patroclus' behalf, and therefore resenting every second of screentime given to Briseis (none of us could remember her name, so connorbeast renamed her Tartacus. For we are juvenile.)

[flyingtapes.livejournal.com]

::snork:: Juvenile, but funny.