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I've now seen all the Fifth Doctor episodes bar Kinda, Snakedance and Arc of Infinity. The first two of those I have on VCD and will be watching tonight or tomorrow. The main thing is, I've now seen all the Turlough episodes. It wasn't till this morning, when I was thinking about why I love Turlough so much (he's vying with Ace for the Favourite Companion badge) that my brain, a la Homer Simpson's, chimed in with "sullen 18-year-old trained as a soldier, thrown into a world where he doesn't belong literally because of the sins of his father and then manipulated by forces beyond his control into betraying the only people who might give a damn about him? Turlough=Connor, dumbass." And Five/Turlough=Wesley/Connor and it all makes sense. In my head.

It's worrisome to suddenly find oneself attracted to a twitchy, moody-looking ginger guy in a school uniform. There are far too many of them around here. Meanwhile, [livejournal.com profile] marymac was just complaining about the lack of good-looking men on Doctor Who, because the episodes of Blake's 7 she saw when [livejournal.com profile] lasultrix was here spoiled her for all other old sci-fi. I pointed out that the Master is rather hot if you don't mind the psychosis and propensity for shrinking things, but she says the chuckling would put her off. Fie.


Adric's grown on me, damn it, despite his awesome stupidity in Four to Doomsday (even Five, poor, passive-aggressive Five, calls him an idiot to his face. Which amused me a lot.) I think it was the moment in his first episode when one of his contemporaries on his home planet snaps "you think you're better than us", and Adric, all bewildered, says "of course I'm better than you!" Ah, mathematically brilliant and bereft of social skills, that's how I like my characters. Earthshock made me sob brokenly ("I'll never know if I got it right"! the credits! THE BADGE!) and I still don't buy the Doctor's explanation as to why they couldn't go back and save Adric. I was glad Tegan raised the point I was thinking about - the freighter crashes whether Adric's on board or not, so why *not* save him?

Wee miniaturised Master living in a box in Planet of Fire: I almost fell off the sofa laughing. I'd watch a spinoff about the tiny!Master. Served him right for always waving that black dildo compression thing around.

Speaking of Planet of Fire, there's a part where it really looks like the Master kisses the Doctor. Twice. I'd illustrate this point with screencaps, but Power DVD hates me at the moment. There's a similar bit in Logopolis. It struck me too in Logopolis how nice the Doctor and the Master are to each other - when they're not trying to kill each other they're so beautifully mannered with pleases and thank-yous and oh-I'm-so-sorries. And the Master killed him by making him fall off Jodrell Bank! Woes! Maybe that was why Five was able to stand back and let him burn alive when he couldn't pull the trigger on Davros. "Would you show no mercy to your own..." I can see why they would have been going for the implication that the Master is the Doctor's brother, especially in this episode for the parallel with Turlough and Malkon, but I choose to believe they're not related. It's angstier and makes them easier to slash.

Resurrection of the Daleks: Daleks are invading future-Earth. The Doctor and his two companions - an ex-soldier and a young human woman - lead half a dozen crew members on a space station in a desperate last stand. At the last minute the Doctor leaves his companions in the TARDIS and they realise he's locked the coordinates to take them back to Earth... you know, I saw this episode when it was called Parting of the Ways. I watched this last week and I genuinely can't remember how it ended. Oh, wait, something about Dalek replicants being all over Earth in positions of power? Was that ever mentioned again?

And, oh yes, the ending of Warriors of the Deep. Everyone dead. The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan the only ones left standing. Beaten up and all but in tears, the Doctor says there should have been another way. In any other fandom there'd be a metric ton of het, slash and threesome angsty h/c set immediately after the credits. This episode was high on the Five/Turlough/Tegan stuff all round. Must go and look for some...

on 2005-08-25 06:11 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] that_mireille
I thought I disliked Adric, and then I watched "Keeper of Traken" and "Logopolis" and realized that no, I don't like Five and Adric together, because Five's too passive-aggressive to cope with Adric's social ineptness. I like Adric just fine with Four. (And I loved Adric in "Black Orchid," bickering with Nyssa.)

It struck me too in Logopolis how nice the Doctor and the Master are to each other - when they're not trying to kill each other they're so beautifully mannered with pleases and thank-yous and oh-I'm-so-sorries.

And complimenting one another on their brilliance, IIRC. Though oh, how much did I love the look on Four's face when he and the Master shook hands on their bargain?

Maybe that was why Five was able to stand back and let him burn alive when he couldn't pull the trigger on Davros.

That, and, well, Davros probably never broke his heart. *g*

I remember reading in DWM, back in when "Planet of Fire" was shiny and new, that a lot of people were interpreting that as "to your own kind." Works for me. I never wanted them to be brothers, even before I was consciously slashing them. (In my head, though not yet on paper.)

on 2005-08-25 06:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com
Tell [livejournal.com profile] marymac I now have S2 of B7. Where Avon starts dressing entirely in black leather. :)

on 2005-08-25 06:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I haven't seen Planet of Fire yet, but it is now next on the list. Master-in-a-box! Eee!

Also, that bit in Logopolis where it really looks like the Master and the Doctor kiss on the gantry burned out my retinas the first time I saw it and then I wondered if it all a hallucination. Apparently not. Thank you. I am sane.

Really.

on 2005-08-25 06:51 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] gwynnega
The only thing I remember about how Resurrection of the Daleks ends is Tegan leaving and Five being heartbroken. Waaaaah!

I can see why they would have been going for the implication that the Master is the Doctor's brother, especially in this episode for the parallel with Turlough and Malkon, but I choose to believe they're not related. It's angstier and makes them easier to slash.

::nods::

on 2005-08-25 08:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
That, and, well, Davros probably never broke his heart. *g*

Tom Baker's totally a Doctor/Davros slasher, you know *g*

Though oh, how much did I love the look on Four's face when he and the Master shook hands on their bargain?

I love that scene, where Nyssa protests that he can't seriously want to work with the Master and he rounds on her, saying that he's never chosen anyone - they've stowed away or ended up with him by accident or he's been forced to take them with him - and why should this be any different.

Four's great at verbally smacking Adric down when he gets too cheeky or too self-important. I loved them in Logopolis.

on 2005-08-25 08:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
That reminds me, must check bank account, see how much I can justifiably spend on DVDs this month...

on 2005-08-25 08:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Definitely not a hallucination, though I thought so too and had to rewind the VCD. The Master just sort of lunges at him.

Planet of Fire's great. It has the Master in a natty suit! And Turlough's angsty back story! And mini Master!

on 2005-08-25 08:23 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Aww, and he runs after her! I was a bit put out to watch Time Flight and see him abandon her on Earth without a second thought, and Tegan crying when she realizes he's left her.

on 2005-08-25 08:53 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
Jamie's cute and has chemistry with everyone.

And the Doctor and the Master - so fucked at uni and remain totally slashtastic.

on 2005-08-25 09:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
So much agreement, on both parts. I bet the Doctor was a cocky little bastard at uni, too.

on 2005-08-25 11:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
Especially during the threesome with the Rani.

on 2005-08-25 11:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
And she kicked them both out of her room afterwards because she had more scientific experiments to run. (I would so write this if not for the difficulty with the names. The Doctor's Theta at this point, but I have a hard time believing the Master and the Rani were calling themselves that at uni and [livejournal.com profile] connorbeast twitches when I go with the book!canon names Koschei and Ushas)

on 2005-08-25 11:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
I dunno. Those names sound just like ones people might adopt at uni and they're establishing their identity.

on 2005-08-25 11:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Hmm, you could be right... (Casanova warped my perception of young!Doctor. Because he now looks like David Tennant. Which, given he's Ten, is decidedly odd.)

on 2005-08-26 12:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
*is ignoring the very thought and writing her dissertation*
*thinking about writing her dissertation anyway*

on 2005-08-29 11:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] randomalia.livejournal.com
Hey, I've been reading some of your fic and it's fabulous. I'm going to add you so I can keep up with it, hope that's fine :)

Also, I'm with you on the Adric thing. He was such a prat in Four to Doomsday, but ever since the fifth Doctor came along I've been having very wrong, very bad impulses to slash them in some unrequited way.

on 2005-08-29 11:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Hi! Adding me's fine - how could I refuse someone with such a great icon *g*

Must write Adric fic *adds to ever-growing list of DW stuff to write*

on 2005-09-19 03:53 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com
I was glad Tegan raised the point I was thinking about - the freighter crashes whether Adric's on board or not, so why *not* save him?

Because any change in an event that massive, no matter how small, could have fucked everything up. Remember, that freighter wiped out the Dinosaurs - and paved the way for mammalian life forms to become the dominant...which lead to humans.

Read a great fic once that did take this premise and ran with it - because Adric's mass wasn't on board, a slight shift in events rippled and cascaded through time until humans never even evolved.
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