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[doyle]

I liked this one but didn't think it was the best of the season - although I have a feeling this was due to
a) the constant thought of "God, nos is going to loathe this"
b) the too-loud, intrusive, fucking irritating background music that totally sapped my ability to concentrate on any of the scenes.

I found it hard to believe that the Doctor wouldn't haul Pete in front of the car - or at least clue him in and let it be his choice - the moment he realized what was going on. However much he cares about Rose, he should know better than anyone about the needs of the many, necessary sacrifice, etc. A wee bit more contrition from Rose over the whole bringing about the apocalypse would have been nice, too. And the paradoxes made my brain hurt (they did rewrite the timeline at the end, because Rose didn't grow up knowing her dad was alone when he died, therefore she had no reason to want to go there and be with him, therefore the episode couldn't have happened and argh!)

Anyway, stuff I loved:

Baby Mickey with his gran! And Rose 'imprinting' herself on him. Baby Rose, too, and the Doctor sternly telling her not to bring about the end of the world. Poor Mickey's been dumped, it seems - it'd be nice of Rose to tell him that, though maybe she's phoned him.

Really liked the actor playing Rose's dad.

The Tardis turning into just a box gave me chills, for some reason.

The Doctor's death made me eep, but would have had more impact if the TV Times hadn't spoiled me for it.

The suggestion that Rose has been planning it all along, refering back to the fact that she only said yes when he knew the Tardis was a time machine. I've always wondered about that scene and I was so glad Paul Cornell mentioned it.

I loved what the Doctor said about losing his planet, and that his entire family is dead - I remember Two mentioning the family that he doesn't talk to (presumably because he, err, took his 16-year-old granddaughter joyriding and never brought her back? I imagine his daughter or son is still a bit miffed about that. Yes, I know, looms, whatever) and Seven said in Curse of Fenric that he wasn't sure he had a family any more. His scene with the couple, too, his sadness that he's never had their mundane sort of life, was lovely.

It's obvious some time's passed between Aliens of London and this one. Rose is absolutely sure here that he's not going to leave her, and she throws it in his face how 'sad' he is. Ow. I wonder was he planning to strop off by himself for a month or two? And how successful would he have been at coming back to get her at the right time?

I never realized how skinny CE is without the jacket. [/shallow]

In conclusion: liked it, would have loved if it not for the bloody music. And Rose continues to be my fictional girlfriend, even if she does fuck up timelines and not be convincingly sorry she's done it.


Now to make sure my notes are in some sort of order. First final is in six days.

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[odycee.livejournal.com]

the too-loud, intrusive, fucking irritating background music that totally sapped my ability to concentrate on any of the scenes

Oh god, it was horrendous wasn't it. Whoever wrote it needs stringing up.

And good luck!

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[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I have a feeling this was due to
a) the constant thought of "God, nos is going to loathe this"


*feels powerful, yay!*

However much he cares about Rose, he should know better than anyone about the needs of the many, necessary sacrifice, etc.

This being me main Nine Issue right now. Cos, really, that *and* Dalek. And it's apparently only Rose he'll pull that shit for. When Pete's like "oh, the Doctor totally worked this all out, yo" I was like "yup" and a bit, umm, put out that he'd apparently kill off everyone on the planet to save Rose's mascara running. Sure, we dunno what his alternative plan with the TARDIS *was*, but I don't think Cornell knows either. In which case a "wtf?" is not unwarranted, I feel. Like in 'Dalek' he's putting millions in danger (and WW3, potentially, if Harriet hadn't made the decision. ("It's just Harriet, standing up and making a decision because no one else will"!). Now, this is lovely fodder for A Very Special Episode, but, err, morally a bit shady. No, Doctor, it's not about whether you have the right to kill one person, it's about you not having the right *not* to and kill everyone else by inaction.

*hyperventilates a bit*

A wee bit more contrition from Rose over the whole bringing about the apocalypse would have been nice, too.

"Zomg, you killed us all with your hubris!"
"I sorry."
"...okay!"


Poor Mickey's been dumped, it seems - it'd be nice of Rose to tell him that, though maybe she's phoned him.

Sent him a text? "Mcky, u r dumped. have new bf. is the dr. he is teh hotness. kthnxbai."

The Tardis turning into just a box gave me chills, for some reason.

I wented "eep!" cos of they had NO TIME MACHINE and thus NO FIX! OMG!

The suggestion that Rose has been planning it all along, refering back to the fact that she only said yes when he knew the Tardis was a time machine. I've always wondered about that scene and I was so glad Paul Cornell mentioned it.

Also, it means we've got a *sort* of internal explanation for being so Earthcentric - because he knows/thinks time travel is what'll keep Rose.

presumably because he, err, took his 16-year-old granddaughter joyriding and never brought her back? I imagine his daughter or son is still a bit miffed about that.

*dies*

His scene with the couple, too, his sadness that he's never had their mundane sort of life, was lovely.

I liked that mostly, but was a bit creeped out that it had a vague undertone of "you two aren't rubbish and you amuse me. alright, i'll save you then"

Ow. I wonder was he planning to strop off by himself for a month or two? And how successful would he have been at coming back to get her at the right time?

Or he could go away for a few seconds to calm down, and then pick up a more contrite Rose six months later. Don't think that occurred to *her*, though. Bwahahaha!

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[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

presumably because he, err, took his 16-year-old granddaughter joyriding and never brought her back? I imagine his daughter or son is still a bit miffed about that.

*dies*

I can only imagine the next time he went home. "Well, you've turned up at last... where's Susan, then? I hope you've been making her go to school."

"I did! I took very good care of her! Right up until the point where I abandoned her on a post-apocalyptic destroyed-by-Daleks Earth."

"..."

Or he could go away for a few seconds to calm down, and then pick up a more contrite Rose six months later. Don't think that occurred to *her*, though. Bwahahaha!

I was thinking that too! "Love your dad so much, do you? Why don't you spend some time with him then? In the *Eighties*! By *yourself*!"

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[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I was thinking that too! "Love your dad so much, do you? Why don't you spend some time with him then? In the *Eighties*! By *yourself*!"

"With THATCHER? Hah, see if you can turn *her* good by touching her up a bit, hussy!"

[nymphgalatea.livejournal.com]

I totally did a spit-take over Mickey imprinting on Rose. And over the Doc very sternly telling the three month old Rose not to destroy the world, mmkay? His face when he did it was utterly hilarious, like he really truly thought she would remember.

I was convinced that it would turn out that the driver of the car that killed her dad, would be...her dad, as a result of him realising he needed to be killed somehow. Clearly I've watched the Assassination of JFK episode of Red Dwarf too many times.

And I liked the authentically 1987 hairstyles everyone sported. Jackie's wet look perm was a thing of beauty.

[panloaf.livejournal.com]

Pretty good example episode if you were to start an argument about RTD introducing a little bit too much "relationship" schtuff, but no matter :p

Liked the ep, thought the bit with the couple (while some may read much into - their child being the next messiah or something..) was actually a nice attempt to say, "Yes, we realise that we kill off the minor support roles with wild abandon, so we'll try to save some." Though by giving the MSRs (and not extras.. for they are mute cannon fodder) names and more dialogue, they're no longer Minor :D
Most other series just merrily go along the lines of, "Hi! You're not core cast? Sorry; you're dead, mate."

[owl]

LOL at the Susan thing.

All the best for the exams!

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

Er...what you said. Rspecially about Rose needing to display just a bit more contrition.

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[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

Sent him a text? "Mcky, u r dumped. have new bf. is the dr. he is teh hotness. kthnxbai."

::snort:: Actually, I figured Mickey dumped her, seeing as how she merrily flounced off and left him to be hauled in for questioning in her disappearance.